Yes, I found plenty of references among various ministers of hearing of this practice, or someone told them about this practice. But does anyone have any authoritative documentation to which they might direct me?
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Shepherds Looking For "Lost Sheep" Broke Their Legs Upon Finding Them
by Justitia Themis inon another discussion board, a poster made this odd comment.
she said that when ancient shepherds recovered a lost sheep, they broke its legs.
then, they never ran away again.
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Shepherds Looking For "Lost Sheep" Broke Their Legs Upon Finding Them
by Justitia Themis inon another discussion board, a poster made this odd comment.
she said that when ancient shepherds recovered a lost sheep, they broke its legs.
then, they never ran away again.
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On another discussion board, a poster made this odd comment. She said that when ancient shepherds recovered a lost sheep, they broke its legs. Then, they never ran away again. She used this as a justification for discipline from 'Jesus' should a Christian 'stray' from the flock.
I asked her source; she replied some 'Judaic Christian minister...'
Has anyone else ever heard of this practice?
Justitia
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Cain and Abel - where did they get the idea of a burnt offering?
by truthseeker init has always puzzled me why abel, a herder of sheep, would want to kill his own animals to offer them up to god.. prior to the flood, it would be fair to say that no one ate meat.
maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but assuming that meat.
was not eaten, why would abel's offering be better than cain's offering?.
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BUT THE POINT IS: THESE ARE STORIES TO TEACH MANKIND THE MEANING OF SACRIFICE!
REAL LOVE REQUIRES THE WILLINGNESS TO SACRIFICE.
While raising my children, I tried to teach them that love requires sacrifice; it means putting oneself second at times. However, I would never ask them to kill an animal to 'prove' how much they loved me.
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Author Spends Year Following Every Rule In Bible
by Justitia Themis in.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20910659/site/newsweek/?gt1=10357.
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#4 Talk on Tues Sept 25 - Blood
by still_in74 inhey all, i have to give a #4 talk on tuesday.
topic:.
"why true christians do not accept blood transfusions".
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Justitia Themis
I too would draw the line on this one. I can massage my talks enough to make them something I can in good conscience support, but not the blood doctrine. I would just call in sick short notice.
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1920s Resolution "Message of Hope" Where Can I Find A Copy?
by Justitia Themis init's mentioned in this weeks revelation bookstudy.
i would like to see what it really said, as opposed to the two or three sentences quoted.. thanks,.
justitia.
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Thanks Nathan.
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1920s Resolution "Message of Hope" Where Can I Find A Copy?
by Justitia Themis init's mentioned in this weeks revelation bookstudy.
i would like to see what it really said, as opposed to the two or three sentences quoted.. thanks,.
justitia.
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It's mentioned in this weeks Revelation bookstudy. I would like to see what it really said, as opposed to the two or three sentences quoted.
Thanks,
Justitia
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CANADA-another ELDER PEDO 9-18-07
by DannyHaszard inthere are so many jehovah' s witnesses elder pedophile cases,that i now must collate by case dates this is case 9-18-07 http://www.newstalk980.com/index.php?p=ntnews&action=view_story&id=9906 just up!
prominently placed on the jehovah's witnesses news wire church elder pleads guilty in sex court case.
980 cjme news talk radio, canada -7 hours ago.
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The attorney, Labach I believe is his name, why is he so intent on distinguishing that this gentleman's 'counselling' work was done as a 'friend of the family' and not spiritual shepherding? Is the attorney a JW? If not, he is putting forth an unusual amount of effort to separate the WTBTS from this.
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What Were the "Geneologies" Of Which Paul Was Warning In 1 Tim. 1:17?
by Justitia Themis ininteresting...from the jaimeson, fausset and brown bible commentary:.
genealogies--not merely such civil genealogies as were common among the jews, whereby they traced their descent from the patriarchs, to which paul would not object, and which he would not as here class with "fables," but gnostic genealogies of spirits and aeons, as they called them, "lists of gnostic emanations" [alford].
so tertullian [against valentinian, c. 3], and irenaeus [preface].
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Uh...sure...Leolaia...what you wrote is just what I meant to write... wink, wink.
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What Were the "Geneologies" Of Which Paul Was Warning In 1 Tim. 1:17?
by Justitia Themis ininteresting...from the jaimeson, fausset and brown bible commentary:.
genealogies--not merely such civil genealogies as were common among the jews, whereby they traced their descent from the patriarchs, to which paul would not object, and which he would not as here class with "fables," but gnostic genealogies of spirits and aeons, as they called them, "lists of gnostic emanations" [alford].
so tertullian [against valentinian, c. 3], and irenaeus [preface].
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Justitia Themis
Interesting concept, but again, we have to deal with the context at hand. That is, this is something Christians would be concerned with or that would come up in the process of their Christian lives. Gnosticism and concern over the genealogies of pagan gods would never be of their concern.
But, the Christians in Ephesus were a combination of Jews AND Pagans. Ephesus was a large city with a large commercial base because of its location on trading routes. We know there had to be some upper-class Christians ( who were probably Gentile), because of the account of a young man who fell out of a third story window while Paul was preaching in this home.
It was the most active city in the whole empire for Roman cult worship, and was granted the privilege of having TWO temples to Augustus. They also worshipped Artemis, as we have the account of the the riots that involved Paul because of the statue-making silversmiths.
In a letter to the closely related city of Colossae, Paul warned them about their "angel worship." So the Gentile Christians easily could have become interested in Gnosticism because of their religious background, and they could have been influencing Jewish Christians, who might find it attractive because of their history of keeping geneologies.
Additionally, at this time in history, Gnosticism was not clearly articulated; the Ephesians and their pluralistic backgrounds would make a fertile breeding ground for "new" ideas.
Regards,
Justitia